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Dr. Leslie Sklair, a professor
at the London School of Economics who has researched globalisation and
mass media extensively, argues that sustainable development and protection
of human rights is possible in a global system in his book, “Globalisation
Capitalism and its Alternatives,” to be published by Oxford University
Press next year. Bulletin Editor Pavel Antonov interviewed
Sklair in October.
Is it possible to prevent
globalisation?
In my view globalisation is irreversible. We are not going to go back
to the days before the electronic media. There is too much enjoyment,
pleasure and genuine information available from the mass media, and that
has liberated many people’s cultural lives to the point where there is
no realistic possibility that people will just give that up. Also, we
are not going to go back to a situation where the state completely controls
everyone’s life. However, there are different forms of globalisation.
… In my new book I will argue that there is a viable and genuine long
term alternative to capitalist globalisation. This derives from the argument
that capitalist organisation itself is not viable in the long term because
of its two major central crises: the class polarisation crisis and the
crisis of ecological sustainability.
What alternative to the present
form of capitalist globalisation do you recommend?
An alternative based on a genuine globalisation of human rights. At
the moment the universal human rights movement, particularly in its official
form with the United Nations, is based on civil and political rights:
freedom from torture, freedom for people to participate in politics, free
elections, unrestricted political parties and so on. This is quite compatible
with capitalist globalisation as I have analysed it. But there is another
sphere of human rights, which is embodied in the UN Declaration on Human
Rights and disembodied in many, if not most, other UN and national conventions
and charters on human rights. And that sphere is economic and social rights.
The right of everyone to a decent standard of living. The idea that children
going to bed hungry, that people dying of starvation, or people being
denied education or health services — that these are violations of human
rights, just as much as denying people the right of voting.
Is this where environmental
rights belong?
I think yes, though the environmental justice movement is yet in its
infancy. I would certainly say that the right to a healthy environment
is a basic social right. It is a social right, because it is not restricted
to individuals. It is a right of the global commons, to protect and to
enhance the global commons. And these economic and social rights, including
environmental rights, are a direct challenge to the form of capitalist
globalisation that we have at the moment. If we take one simple example:
We all consider the right to own and drive a motor car if we can afford
it as a basic right. Any government that bans the use of cars would be
accused of denying basic human rights.
How can globalisation be
changed to solve the environmental sustainability crisis?
I think the anti-globalisation movement maybe falls into a trap of
condemning globalisation in general, and therefore condemning many of
the things that ordinary people find to be very liberating — for example,
access to mass media, most of which is highly positive. In general it
can be useful, and in the early days of mass media in the Third World
it was widely seen as a tool for education and enlightenment. But of course
this has all been overtaken by the cultural ideology of consumerism. Now
mass media is completely dependent on advertising revenue from the commercial
sector. So the cultural ideology of consumerism is, I think, the key to
the crisis of ecological sustainability. Because it is quite clear that,
if the whole world is consuming at the rate of the First World then life
on this planet will be unsustainable, one of the great challenges for
our present century is to work out a way of providing a better standard
of living ¡ª and here I am talking about quality of life and not about
the ability to consume more. That is why I think the globalisation of
economic and social rights may make a significant contribution to solving
this crisis of ecological sustainability. Because with more emphasis on
the quality of life, and less emphasis on the quantity of consumed goods,
we can find a brighter future.
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Photo: Courtesy of Dr. Leslie Sklair
DR. LESLIE SKLAIR: Globalisation won’t go away.
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